PRES. HARROZ: Hi. I'm Joe Harroz, President of the University of Oklahoma. I want to welcome you to our Conversations with the President. This platform gives me the chance to talk to some of the great people who make OU so special. Make sure you are subscribed to Conversations with the President, and you'll be the first to know when new episodes are released.
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First things first, I want to congratulate, and this is just a ridiculous thing to say, but our women's gymnastics team and Coach KJ Kindler on winning back‑to‑back national titles and winning six of the last nine national championships. KJ, I don't know what you do, but you are an absolute superstar. Congratulations to all of the women. We are so proud of you. That is truly a stunning achievement.
Our men's gymnastics team, doing an amazing job, closing out 23 straight NCAA finals appearances, a fourth‑place appearance this year rounding out an amazing overall season. Proud of both of those teams and all of those that are making that happen.
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Today's guest is someone I have been looking forward to chatting with for some time, she has become a friend in short order. She is a remarkable coach, OU athletics has seen phenomenal successes across the board in the past year, and today's guest is a major part of that. We welcome Coach Jennie Baranczyk.
I want to welcome our women's basketball coach, Coach Jennie Baranczyk to the show. Coach Baranczyk just completed her second season.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: I know.
PRES. HARROZ: Time flies, as the head coach of our women's basketball team and has taken the foundation laid by our predecessor Sherri Coale and just absolutely run with it. Your latest team, just for the first time since 2009 claimed the Big 12 Title, which is absolutely exciting and remarkable, first time since 2009. Unbelievable players on your team. You have grown them in exciting ways. We are setting the Big 12 on fire and one more year of that and then heading to the SEC.
Something about coaches that played at Iowa are pretty good here, right?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right, Bob Stoops and I are so similar in so many ways.
PRES. HARROZ: Similar contracts.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right. Exactly, exactly.
PRES. HARROZ: It's amazing, in two seasons, in some ways it feels like you just started here and in some ways it feels like your already an institution. What is it now ‑‑ you've just now finished the second season, you are hot on the recruiting trail and we are going to talk about that, but have you had a chance to unpack the last two seasons? How do you feel about where things are with the program and with you and the family here in Oklahoma?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: There was a lot in your first question there. That is pretty aggressive.
PRES. HARROZ: This program is pretty aggressive, yeah. It's a cutting-edge program.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right, exactly. No, honestly it has been, sometimes it feels like you literally just got here, and your hair is still on fire and you're trying to figure out where to go. And at the same time, it completely feels like home. It has been a great place, and I love the people, the women in that locker room, I love the people that I get to work with. I mean, you look at all of the coaches here that have been phenomenal, obviously an administration that is completely supportive of just the overall mission of where we all want to go.
PRES. HARROZ: I think it is mainly the administration.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: It is mainly you.
PRES. HARROZ: And I don't want to name names, but yeah you brought it up. I think almost all of the success is mine.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Exactly.
PRES. HARROZ: Yeah, but the women sports have just been off the charts. Another national championship, right, for women's gymnastics, softball is doing okay.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Just a little bit, I know. I know.
PRES. HARROZ: Women's tennis, men's gymnastics, but yeah it is a pretty rarified air right now.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: You know, it really is. And I think the thing that is so amazing is one, you look around campus and you see all of these people that are not only just competing for national championships, they are achieving elite level play, right? I mean you are talking legendary. And then you talk about the humility of the coaches. Patty Gasso is as great as they come, KJ Kindler is as great as they come. You are talking about two women that not just dominate their sport but are dominant coaches of any sport whether it is male or female. And so you look at what they continue to do and the humility they have. It is really impressive, especially for somebody ‑‑ I still consider myself a young coach, not many people do, but I will. But I think that they have been so gracious and so kind and so a lot of us really get to learn from greatness, and when you get to do that on a daily basis, is there anything better, I don't know.
PRES. HARROZ: Let me ask, a lot of folks wonder, do you have regular interaction with them, with those coaches you just mentioned?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: You know, you don't necessarily ever get regular interaction with anybody because you kind of sometimes get in your silo, and you just, you know, you just keep going. However, we are really intentional to be able to connect, and I think Joe C. does a great job in terms of making sure that our coaches get to interact with each other because we need to be our biggest cheerleaders, and that doesn't happen. That is the thing also, especially at this level you know, there's a lot of teams ‑‑ I love getting to work with Porter Moser every day and I get to see him a lot, and we kind of talk about him. He is always ‑‑
PRES. HARROZ: He is a very calming influence.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: He is such a calming influence, right. But you talk about this just incredible energy, and he's so easy to cheer for, and especially the way that our world is going, it's not easy to cheer for, especially men's basketball. And so to be able to watch him do it the right way and work his tail off and his staff, they are all just amazing people, and so I love that.
Brent Venables, again, great energy, is really supportive of all of the coaches. You just don't get that. No, we don't just get to hang out all of the time because nobody really has time to really do that, but we are intentional about connection. And so those times that we connect are really meaningful.
PRES. HARROZ: Yeah, that's fantastic. And you had two players that were named to the Honorable mention All‑American team. You, for the second year in a row, were named the top 10 coaches. How does that feel? And how proud are you of those women?
PRES. HARROZ: Well, you know this is the only thing that you really get proud of with this extra COVID year because you get to keep them for two years. I've always wanted to have the opportunity to do that, but I love what they've been able to do. I mean, you look at the senior class, and they just really believed in this program, put their blood, sweat and tears in this program. Took this program from a 4 and 14 Big 12 record to their senior year and 14 and 4. You know that doesn't really happen. Again, doing it the right way, having fun, there were just so many great things. Obviously, Madi Williams was just able to be drafted to Seattle for the Seattle Storm, so she heads out already this week. That is also the difference is in women's basketball you go right to the WNBA, but you don't stop. There's never an off‑season. So these women that become professional, you know their college season ends ‑‑ you know the men's basketball, their college season ends, they get drafted in June, they don't go until the next year. The women have to go, and they are in training camp already at the end of this month, at the end of April.
PRES. HARROZ: Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. Its immediate.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: As soon as you're done with your season, you go overseas, and you play. As soon as that season is done you come back to training camp the next year. There is never an off‑season for women's basketball. Isn't that crazy.
PRES. HARROZ: Yes, it is. As a dad who did some coaching of youth soccer here in Norman ‑‑.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right, it's the same.
PRES. HARROZ: It's the same.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: There's never an off‑season.
PRES. HARROZ: There's never an off‑season. It's basically the same.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: In all fairness, youth sports there is not an off‑season either and that is probably a conversation for another day, but I am also a youth sports parent. It's awful.
PRES. HARROZ: For somebody that got cut in seventh grade from a lot of sports, I have to relate through youth sports to connect.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right, so do a lot of people.
PRES. HARROZ: That is great. I think that totally works. So you, you are a big deal, you've already established that through your humility, but in your house, you are like one of two superstars. I'm not talking about Scott. We're not talking about Scott.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: I know most people would be talking about him wouldn't they?
PRES. HARROZ: But it's not Scott, it's Madi.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right.
PRES. HARROZ: What happened there?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Jordy.
PRES. HARROZ: Jordy. I'm sorry, Jordy.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: No, we just talked about Madi, but yes, I know. I know. If I would have known that, I would never have allowed it. Ever. Ever.
PRES. HARROZ: So you had no idea that she got miced up?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Well, I knew. Here is what happens is you go to the NCAA tournament, right and so you have all of these forms to fill out. And so for women's basketball it's an ESPN contract and so you have to say okay, you can allow them to do this, not this, yes this. And so ‑‑
PRES. HARROZ: For the listeners, this is your daughter who at the second round who became a star because of her vocal cheering and support of her mom and team.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Now it is all over the YouTube channel. Yes. Because one, I would not even know how to do that, and two, no. My husband has a hard time saying no and I'm sure you have a hard time saying no, I don't. I'm really good at it.
PRES. HARROZ: Okay, so you did not know she was going to get miced up?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Okay so I knew ‑‑ what happened is ESPN kind of came back and they said okay, can we get in your locker room more, we want more access to your team, and there was another young woman on the other team and her brother played for the men's team and so they were micing him up and they said can we mic your daughter or your husband and I said not my husband.
PRES. HARROZ: Not Scott, no.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Not my husband. That would get us all fined. And maybe fired. You know him a little bit.
PRES. HARROZ: Exactly. I only know him a little bit.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: You know him as a fan, yeah not good. So I said to my husband, I'm like can we ‑‑ would that be okay? You kind of have mixed feelings and then you are like how bad could it really be?
PRES. HARROZ: Right, what could possibly go wrong?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Until after the game and then I am like oh.
PRES. HARROZ: She was a star though.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Who knew.
PRES. HARROZ: You had to be proud of her.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Proud is a unique word, but I would say it was actually, you know, as a coach, you know how this is. When you are so invested, and you know your family is invested. We moved here for my job, and you don't have a job. This is who we are. This is. This is a significant part of who we are. And so this is also who our family is. And I don't think I ever got to see it through her eyes until that point.
As much as I was like, the mom and me was like oh my God, why did I do and allowing this, there was also this element of wow, we are all in it. We are all in.
PRES. HARROZ: She showed it was great.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Now if she could like play a little harder or practice her mouth like that, I would be really proud. So yes.
PRES. HARROZ: Maybe translate that into stem like her YouTube presence.
Ashleigh, my wife just fell in love with her there because she made me watch that over and over again.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: You and a lot of people. I know, I know. You know how many people came up to me and said I have watched that a million times. That is why she's getting her viewership, everyone, thank you so much.
PRES. HARROZ: That is awesome. But other kids, any jealousy going on there?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Well, my son, Eli who is 10 who is in fourth grade, and he kind of will tell me like I don't know if I'm jealous because he doesn't want the attention, but he definitely doesn't want her to have it.
PRES. HARROZ: I was going to say, that is really it, right? It's not that he wants it, it's that he doesn't want her to have it.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: We went to the women's final four in Dallas, and because it is so close, we brought the whole family to the championship game. I played at Iowa too, so they were playing in the championship. You heard a rumor at that, right? Me and Bob were there. Anyway, but that is the audience that sees her. So everyone is coming up to her, hey Jordy, and she is just little red face, and he is just I don't know if I like this or don't like this, and hope, our 5‑year‑old is clueless because she has no idea. She just makes herself known. She doesn't need a YouTube channel.
PRES. HARROZ: She is her own world.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: She is her own channel.
PRES. HARROZ: With the viewership of her.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Yes, that and the concession stand.
PRES. HARROZ: Maybe we create a competition where if he goes all in like she did, may be like it's a little limelight. I think it is healthy.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Yes, exactly.
PRES. HARROZ: Sort of a feeding frenzy.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Great marketing at least. If we are going to be all in, we are all in.
PRES. HARROZ: That is awesome.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right, exactly.
PRES. HARROZ: So things over the last year or so had change a lot. Let's talk first, in athletics, let's talk about women's sports. I had Patty Gasso, Coach Gasso on this show earlier it was that 50th anniversary of title IX and so she spoke beautifully to that. You have generated and you are team some record attendance this year we haven't seen in a long time. Where is the viewership going for women's basketball, where do you see the trajectory of that to be going?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: While there is such an opportunity right now for women's athletes period. Just the opportunities that we've had, and then you start to talk, there is so much conversation in terms of equality in one of the things that we really talk about is not just a quality in terms of an spiked of men, but it is in addition to, and it is with and it is a partnership or going I think that is something that I really, really proud of that our women do pickups and so we had record attendance in men's basketball and in women's basketball. That is a pride point for all of us. We want more people to be able to come on campus and be part of what we're doing, and then you like it was helpful is doing and you look at all of these things. So then you look at women's basketball as a whole, and you talk about the popularity. There are more than that she was like 9.9 million views in the championship game. And I know most people were talking about whether it was officiating or Kayla Clark or whomever. There were some hotspot topics that they were talking about.
PRES. HARROZ: But it was great basketball.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: It was great basketball. You look at all of those things.
PRES. HARROZ: It would not be happening.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Exactly, and so for us even to end the season in the top 16 in the country, and I think that is ‑‑ I think that is something that is such a pride point for a split going to see the trajectory of this program continuing to go forward because more people here are coming and they are saying what these women are doing. I think these women are accessible, they were grassroots, we are part of the community, we want to be the best for this community we can possibly be, and so I think from a popularity standpoint, it has been incredible. I get to see that at a used level as well. I see a lot as young kids coming to camps. That part has been really fun. We have gone and you see all of these permits and people are playing, but what you never want is you never want to look at it less than it is a game, and it's fun to watch, and is fun to be part of your coke.
I mean, one of the most proud things I think from my seat is we were second in the country this year in terms of scoring and second in the country in terms of a suspected that means we share the basketball. When you don't have ‑‑ it is not one person that is creating a lot, it is across the board. And so I love our balance, I looked that way our women does things and it just really fits this area, and if it's our state.
PRES. HARROZ: Yes. That is fantastic. and thank you for breaking on the fact that you are top in scoring and Estes and that means we're sharing the basketball.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: That's right. I may not everyone knows.
PRES. HARROZ: And I wouldn't.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: You would to.
PRES. HARROZ: I got cut in seventh grade not just from football, but also basketball.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Oh, you did have (inaudible).
PRES. HARROZ: It was a rough year.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: But I think you are doing fine.
PRES. HARROZ: I think so, yeah. Jude, my youngest who is the giant 13‑year‑old, he was giving me a hard time, and he said hey dad, look at how good I am, and you could not do this, giving me a hard time. I said yes, but if you Google my name, I am actually in ESPN because of the move among conferences.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Perfect. There you go.
PRES. HARROZ: It just took a while. I almost had that chip off of my shoulder.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Yeah, you won't ever. That you know what, some of those things drive us.
PRES. HARROZ: That is right.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: It is missed baskets, it is all that those opportunities. It’s just like us.
PRES. HARROZ: It could happen to anybody.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: It doesn't.
PRES. HARROZ: It doesn't, not at that level.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Not in seventh grade.
PRES. HARROZ: Okay, so women's basketball is doing well, bed and you talked about the fact that it is a sport, it is the joy that comes with it, and it has to be fun, but right now we are going through an odd time in intercollegiate athletics and you are living it right now we were talking about this before the show, and it is the strangest of times, at least that I have seen.
Tell me what you see, you are in a hot time during recruiting right now. We know that in IL, which is an oversimplification of two components, sort of organic and synthetic that are out there. What are the changes you are saying and how are you dealing with it?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: While I think, again, and fortunately, it is so loaded at a question because it is so complex, and it is, it is a different world. Gone are the days of your season's over and you go on vacation. And I don't know if I ever had that, but you still can take a breath. For us, these new windows, these transfer windows they start before the season ends, and then they end here in a few weeks. And so you just hit the ground. Especially with transfers right now, and so I just saw a number earlier that core women's basketball is over 1900 pickups that there is a lot that people in the portal or at least have been in the portal, some have chosen a school and whatnot.
And there is a wide range. What we are seeing, I feel like now are really top level players that are answering the portal. So it is not just playing time, it's not just you don't get along with your coach, it's just there are so many factors that go to it. and that really leads into a lot in the NIL, and those opportunities, and so you see that magnified, especially in a media setting, right, and what that looks like, and I think the challenge for coaches is we can't really have control over that, we can't really have a say, so there has to be a process in place at each institution.
I think the thing that we want to make sure though, and again this is for sure our program, and I don't want to speak for all the other coaches here, but I do think Oklahoma does a great job of we're still trying to keep that purity of the sport even though we have to understand the business side because we are competitive. We want to play and compete at the highest level, so we do have to understand that, we do have to ‑‑ we don't have to agree with it, but we have to figure it out. But the difference now between professional sports and college sports is the academic piece, which is always going to be an essential piece on our side, and then it is culture. What are we going to do and create and make sure that people want to come and it's not just a dollar sign because that is how it feels right now. And it is. There is reality to that because you cannot blame a young person to pick a bigger dollar sign. And there is just a reality to that because especially for our demographic, it's not just their money they are putting in their pocket because they don't need it, sometimes their family needs it and is generational money, it can be generational change for their – you know.
The motive for that is a little bit -- that doesn't always get shown. That doesn't always get publicized, but there is reality in that. And so some of this opportunity is incredible for some of these young people and some of the stories we hear, maybe we don't hear the whole story.
PRES. HARROZ: It is fascinating. It is fascinating to see intercollegiate athletics, which hasn't changed fundamentally.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right.
PRES. HARROZ: Really in generations, all of a sudden has this tectonic change.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Right.
PRES. HARROZ: And as a successful head coach, it's a whole new set of challenges, right. What do you see, when you look at it right now, you know how to be successful under a paradigm that no longer exists, right, as it did. And you've talked about what the essence kind of our north star is, but what do you think will be the attributes of the most successful women's basketball coaches over the next three to five years?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: That is a great question. Well, I think there is an element of all of the business side that we are talking, but if I can take that out and say that would be equal, it is literally going to be our adaptability and our relationships, and the ability to continue to be flexible with the generation because even young people are different. And you know every generation before thinks the next generation is bad. So it's not good or bad difference, it’s an evolution, and so what I feel like is really interesting is that as you start to study this generation of people, you know they grew up with groupthink, they grew up in teams, and so that should really be elevated at the time that you leave home, you come and kind of develop who you are, and yet we want this individuality, right. And so there is this mental health component, and a lot of times you start talking mental health and you think someone needs to have medicine or go to a therapist or – well a lot of times it’s just well how do we feel good every day and be okay with that? We as leaders have to be number one in terms of our mental health. So we have to come in a space and be such great examples of just living every day with a smile on our face and actually having fun with what we are doing and being really confident. You know, right now I think young people are thinking confidence is like a butterfly and it just comes, and it goes and someone could take it and someone can't. And it’s action. You know, it’s how do we get back to having that growth mindset. I think establishing that as part of our culture of rolling our sleeves up, we are in it with them. That is one thing I think I love about coaching is that you are in it with them. It's not I am up here, and I am over here and you just come play for me or you come work for me, I don't want to do that. That is not how we want to do it and I think that’s why at Oklahoma we get to do it different. We are with them. We are 100% with them. I think when you can do that, and they feel that, it is amazing what can happen.
PRES. HARROZ: To me it is fascinating, I would love to have this conversation, sort of come back to this in a couple of years because it's moving so quickly. I mean, just the way you are recruiting athletes right now, you are recruiting your own players, which did not exist before and you then you are recruiting in a space where NIL has become really important in brand management, and all of those things that attend to it. And there are new demands on coaches we didn't have before. I just think it is a fascinating time that sort of is fraught with opportunity.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Exactly. You can attack it the right way and really good things can happen, but the number of personal brand conversations I have had over the last year, I never would have ever in my whole life thought about any of that. Right, you never think of your personal brand, and yet we live it every day.
PRES. HARROZ: And not just from your daughter.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: And not just for my daughter or my not so jealous son.
PRES. HARROZ: It is fascinating. A couple of years ago who would have thought the discussions would be around when you are recruiting somebody or with current players brand management.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: And not only that, but we did not even touch on the COVID impact of these young people or the other year they have or how that is impacting high school players. I mean it’s -- there is a lot, there is a lot that is going on right now, and you can look at it as an oh my gosh, there are all of these bad things, but I don't think we're doing that. I think we're trying to think ahead, and I think we are -- our team is in a really good space, they really understand what they are doing, where they want to go, and is not just about the winning, it’s winning every day, and I think when you can break it down like that, then the world does not get so scary.
PRES. HARROZ: You know, it’s fascinating the winning together whether it is coaching a successful team like you are doing it or just our student population as a whole, the numbers around, those same concerns. The percentage of students in college across America today, that have mental health concerns or issues, and then the impact of COVID, I just was reading earlier today that coming out of COVID they believe 60% of college age students had a diagnosable or treatable need or a need more broadly for mental health care counseling.
This idea that you are in it together really is about how do you feel like you belong, and that is a huge part of the strategic plan for the University and a huge part of how do our coaches build successful, in every sense, programs.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Exactly. Exactly. Belonging is all of it. We all crave that, we all crave this independence, but yet we want to belong to something really special.
PRES. HARROZ: It is why kids will give you a hard time and then be the biggest cheerleaders at a game.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: And vice versa.
PRES. HARROZ: Right? And vice versa, yeah without a doubt. Regrettably, we only have like a 25-minute program. Folks that have listened to us said when it goes longer than that, it is just too much to take. It’s too exciting and they can’t go on with the rest of their day because they are so entrenched. Right. I totally get it. So heading into your third season already, I know you are deep into recruiting and I should not be bothering you right now because you should be recruiting, but sort of with all that is going on, what do you forecast, what is your outlook for the next Jennie Baranczyk team?
JENNIE BARANCZYK: I could not be more excited about this team that is coming. We are – we have some great experience, we’ve got some incredible talent coming in. This group has a taste of where we want to go, and you can't -- as much as you practice, you cannot practice it until you get there. We went to the NCAA tournament, obviously, two years ago, second round, not so pretty. This year, second round started not so pretty, and we clawed our way back and we did not finish it, and so they still have that. That motivation continues to really nip at our heels, but we are falling in love with the work piece and I love that. I love being able to go in there. They are working extra, they are prepared for workouts, but they also -- we haven't gotten a lot of off‑season time because with COVID ‑‑ you are built in the off‑season, and you learn how to fall in love with that.
I hate saying the grind because it sounds negative, but you fall in love with that, and then especially when you see that person to your right doing it, the person to your left doing it and then you start to expect more from that person to your right and to your left, and so that I could not be more excited about. I love the leadership on our team. I think we have ‑‑ we will be a little bit of an underdog, I'm not comfortable with that, I don't like that because I want us to be able to -- I want everyone to circle us and I want us to show up every single day and that is where our comfort comes from because let’s be honest, when you are at Oklahoma you're not the underdog. It doesn't matter what your record is, was, what it is, doesn't matter. So you’ve got to learn to show up every day and bring what you have and that is what this team is going to do.
PRES. HARROZ: That is awesome. I absolutely love it. Any time people talk about you, it is always in a positive light.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: You just talk to the wrong people.
PRES. HARROZ: I always claim that I recruited you here to Oklahoma even though you and I know it was 100% you working with Castiglione, but I came into the Zoom.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: He is very thorough. Isn't he the best though?
PRES. HARROZ: He is. You look at the talent he brings in.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Yes, and again, he just does this great job of being this powerful AD that everybody knows, everybody respects, and then he – but he does it with such humility and he brings in people and he puts them in really good positions. It is really fun to like the people that you work around, and that doesn't happen.
PRES. HARROZ: It's so fun, I have worked with him 25 years in various roles and one of the people at the highest integrity I've ever met, and we all know he is really good at his job, but the integrity piece is something you can't hide for even a few years, let along 25. He is special. And while you have been here two seasons, you feel like family already. You, Scott and the whole family appreciate everything you are doing good thank you for making time for this episode and hope to have you back again soon.
JENNIE BARANCZYK: Awesome. Thank you. Boomer.
PRES. HARROZ: Sooner.
I want to thank again Coach Jennie Baranczyk for joining us, terrific podcast. She is just a remarkable talent, so honored to have her as a guest. The future of women's basketball at Oklahoma could not look brighter. Thank you for joining us and we hope that you are with us next time for the next Conversations with the President. Thank you.
